Comments on: sorry.google.com https://quoderat.megginson.com/2008/10/01/sorrygooglecom/ Open information and technology. Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:41:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: ultra https://quoderat.megginson.com/2008/10/01/sorrygooglecom/#comment-1696 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000 http://www.megginson.com/blogs/quoderat/?p=225#comment-1696 I was banned too from viewing satellite images on maps.google.com
You discovered how to remove de IP ban?

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By: david https://quoderat.megginson.com/2008/10/01/sorrygooglecom/#comment-1695 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:42:07 +0000 http://www.megginson.com/blogs/quoderat/?p=225#comment-1695 Thanks for commenting, John, and I’ve known you long enough to know you’ve never spoken for anyone but yourself.

5.3 is a little fuzzy — after all, all Google Maps mashups involve scripts. My interpretation is that the action to view an airport *is* initiated by a human, and the script just adjusts the view. Most of the time, there is no auto zoom: it happens only when an airport is in a remote area (such as the Arctic) where there are no satellite tiles available at the default zoom level, so nothing would otherwise appear on the screen. There is no zoom once the server actually delivers satellite tiles.

Similarly debatable cases would include someone clicking on a link that opens two or three maps on the same page (one human action = three maps), a mashup that does a map slideshow of your trip, showing the map of each city for 10 seconds before moving to the next one, or a map that animated (say) Magellan’s route by drawing an animated line and moving the map to follow it. I don’t *think* Google means to ban apps like these — it’s just a matter of bot-detection software that’s not quite ready for Prime Time. I’ve noticed in the help forums that some places where lots of people access Google Maps through the same firewall proxy have lost access to Google Maps completely, and some have even lost Google Search, so it’s a widespread problem.

None of this is to take away from my gratitude to Google for providing these services — I’m very much in their debt, and just want to help make things better.

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By: John Cowan https://quoderat.megginson.com/2008/10/01/sorrygooglecom/#comment-1694 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:32:15 +0000 http://www.megginson.com/blogs/quoderat/?p=225#comment-1694 Technically, David, you *are* a bot. The zoom-out feature, while very cool, is the use of automation rather than direct human action to trigger actions at Google’s servers. You might want to read the TOS again at http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS, specifically the second sentence of clause 5.3.

After all, your program only hits Google a few extra times per user, but it adds up, and where is Google supposed to draw the line between that and an attempt to download a whole lot of imagery for who-knows-what purposes?

I so, so don’t speak for Google.

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